Creating walkable, urban, human-centered neighborhoods in the Granary District.
Another great, productive, exciting coffee klatch!
Those in attendance:
We met in the Pickle Company, again, had some drinks and snacks (thanks Kevin Blalock and others for providing) and got to work!
The topic: Streets and types of streets that are currently in the neighborhood and those that will be a part of the neighborhood.
We split up into two groups with each group looking at the Granary street network. One group was more on task (note the below picture) while the other group brainstormed future transportation options and ways to get more people down to the Granary (for detailed minutes, scroll down.)
We'd like to thank everyone that attended and would love to get some more feedback on this topic by all of you through comments and responses to this blog.
We'll see you all next Wednesday evening 8pm for the 4th Granary District pre-charrette coffee klatch! Stay tuned for more details!
Meeting minutes (thanks to Jeremy Goldsmith):
Street Sesion- Groundwork for Charrette
Tonight, we talked about the street experience from a 30,000 foot level. Different sorts of the street experience and what flavors are available to pedestrians, residents, business owners, visitors, and tourists.
Potential 15-20 year Plan:
There will be split of TRAX at 700 South. One currently goes east to Main Street and the future TRAX will go to 600 West and up to the intermodal hub; effectively wrapping the downtown and Granary District with transit options.
Much sooner than that, they are looking to bringing a streetcar down 400 W and turning onto 900 S to link up with the 900 S station. Then long-term, running a street car all the way from 9th&9th East to 9th&9th West.
Street layouts aren't set in stone - this is where WE NEED FEEDBACK from these Coffee Klatch mini-meetings and the big charrette on April 24th.
Types of Roads / Flavors of Roads
Many types of experiences on these different roads. Is there a special type of street that is going to be down here? A first of it's kind in the United States?
Next we looked at through-streets that have higher amounts of traffic. These are streets that connect the Granary District to Downtown Salt Lake City, the East Bench, South Salt Lake, Rose Park, etc...
On the next level down we looked at tertiary streets that don't run through to other districts, communities or cities. Smaller amounts of traffic are on these streets.
Finally, the normally lowest level of street type is a dead-end street or a terminal street.
THE LEVEL BEYOND!
See last week's klatch description where we worked on breaking up the block with these types of transportation options:
Different Kinds of Streets
Questions Raised from the Group?
________________TRANSITION TO OPEN/FREE DISCUSSION____________
SLC City Council - Parking Re-zone where parking is
2 cars per 1000sq ft
1 car per 1000sq ft
Grand Boulevard Discussion
Granary - Smaller Property Owners
Denver (Largest Land Owner) - LA Live Owner, Staples Center,
Input: Takeaway: GEOGRAPHIC ASSET - The Granary is special
Looking at financial institutions - What are the federal funds?
New thinking and innovative financing?
RDA as a lender? Not really.
Matching the business plan of economics to these local property owners.
New market tax credits
Federal/State/City/Local - Diversify!!!
Biggest problem - LOU
City regulation on old structures
(Land banking response by major developers / mega developers)
CITY MUST MAKE ALLOWANCES
Compliance with the City.
How efficiently and effectively property owners can get entitlements?
CRUX of the CHARRETTE
City Council is proud of this (from residential perspective)
Budget application meeting next Wednesday.
Raised half of the money through AmEx and Morgan Stanley
Basic Costs of the Engineers, Planners, Architects!!!
They want to do LEED Certified (ARE YOU KIDDING ME?)
If there is going be money, they aren't going to give you because they have to underwrite it.
Need Private (Angel) Investors
Pre-sales, pre-leases, ROI is what the private investors look for.
Economics, economics, economics.
A particular site or project that could act as a catalyst? Or showpiece?
3 properties to start the SNOWBALL EFFECT
Kevin Blalock's property.
Skyler Nielsen's properties
The GOAL is to get the redevelopment projects going to start the catalyzation.
REFOCUS (by Christian)______________________
Streets - Back to the STREETS
Do we think that we can outline the other streets that haven't been MASTER PLANNED by UTA and other agencies (SLC, etc.)?
How far away from the dead ends to we draw that? What's the extend of those roads where we know the dead ends come?
Draw for input...
Non-thru streets (aka Kilby Court).
____________TRANSITION INTO TWO GROUPS______________
Group #1 - JAMES
Transportation and streets that would carry types of transportation
Definitely merit more interest - BROOK - PSOMAS Engineering
UTA Appreciation -
Trails are getting cut
Transportation is getting cut
Can UTA run a bus route to simulate the TRAX/Street-Car?
Can Salt Lake City run the bus?
Push to look at a funding option that way
(Street car - 5/10 years?) - Success of Sugarhouse Street car is imperative
"Lighting Overlay?" How does lighting affect the experience for traffic? Bikers? Transit-riders? Bikers? Pedestrians?
UTA? UDOT? RDA? SLC? Private venture? (Competition in the market)
Group #2 - CHRISTIAN
Five road types
+3 inter-block road types
Pre/Post TRAX & Streetcar Overlay
The rest of the street gets same type of treatment?
What does a bike lane look like on this street model?
T-Intersection (5th W & 9th S and regular street).
Post a recap to NING